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he ran a dumbed down campaign against the state's $22 billion death. he campaigned with a broom which he used to symbolize how easy it would be to sweep away the mess. and the political media fell for it. he was not exposed as the sarah palin no-nothing that he was. he was treated with un-earned respect and his campaign was fleefully welcomed by the media as refreshing. he was regarded as a political star. and when he was elected there was serious talk in the political media of changing the united states constitution to allow foreign born naturalized citizens to run for president of the united states. the republican party was very proud of their new star. >> ladies and gentlemen, america is back. we are back because of the perseverance, character and leadership of the 43rd president of the united states, george w. bush. >> thanks to his sheer incompetence, schwarzenegger quickly became a very unpopular governor and managed to salvage his re-election campaign by abandoning the republicans and adopting the democrats. he ended up tripling the state's debt
he ran a dumbed down campaign against the state's $22 billion death. he campaigned with a broom which he used to symbolize how easy it would be to sweep away the mess. and the political media fell for it. he was not exposed as the sarah palin no-nothing that he was. he was treated with un-earned respect and his campaign was fleefully welcomed by the media as refreshing. he was regarded as a political star. and when he was elected there was serious talk in the political media of changing the...
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we'll get an exclusive interview with chris christie to see what he thought. when we come back, we'll huddle around the water cooler. stuart v. o riley and steven colbert. "way too early" coming right back. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. >>> 20 years ago, i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me. i just want to wish, sweetie, you happy anniversary. a year from now, we will not be celebrating it in front of all these people. >> congratulations to you on your anniversary. i'm sure this is the most romantic place you can imagine being, here with me. >> taking the stage torgt for the first time in the campaign. early projections say 60 million americans tuned in to watch the first of three presidential debates. tell your friends the most watched presidential debate of all time came when 97 million people tuned i
we'll get an exclusive interview with chris christie to see what he thought. when we come back, we'll huddle around the water cooler. stuart v. o riley and steven colbert. "way too early" coming right back. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. >>> 20 years ago, i...
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the senate confirmed roberts 78-22. justice john paul stevens administered the oath in the east room of the white house. tomorrow is the start of the new term of the supreme court and it's shaping up to be an important one for civil rights. toor more we turn to nbc news justice correspondent, pete williams. >> this supreme court term may be one of the most important in decades for civil rights. with the potential for blockbuster decisions on race and same-sex marriage. the court will examine the widespread practice of considering the race of students who apply for college. the case brought by a white high school senior, abigail fisher who said affirmative action kept her out of the university of texas. >> i always thought from the time i was a little girl that any kind of discrimination was wrong and for an institution of higher learning to act this way makes no sense to me. >> the university says it considers race as one factor in administrations to achieve a racially diverse campus. >> one of the greatest advantages o
the senate confirmed roberts 78-22. justice john paul stevens administered the oath in the east room of the white house. tomorrow is the start of the new term of the supreme court and it's shaping up to be an important one for civil rights. toor more we turn to nbc news justice correspondent, pete williams. >> this supreme court term may be one of the most important in decades for civil rights. with the potential for blockbuster decisions on race and same-sex marriage. the court will...
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weight watchers online finally, losing weight clicks. >>> welcome back to "morning joe" at 22 past the hour. a live look at the white house in washington, d.c. joining us we have former campaign senior strategist -- really. you're just going to walk in front of the camera? >> i thought -- >> sit down. sit down. >> you go to schmidt. >> hey, i got an idea. hey, hey, hey, hey, joe. i got an idea. why don't you sit down before we're on the air. >> you know, no can do. i can't go for that. >> you've got go back to introducing him. former campaign senior strategist and political analyst steve schmidt and columnist frank bruni about what he expects to see wednesday night on the debasement do you want me to read it? >> yeah. read it. i'm going to walk in front of the camera. >> he says what i most want from it isn't fireworks, though i'm as big a fan of political theatre as the next hack. it's a word, one that has gone sadly out of vogue over recent decades and been mostly absent from this campaign. sacrifice. and i'm not holding my breath. the last president to make a truly robust call for s
weight watchers online finally, losing weight clicks. >>> welcome back to "morning joe" at 22 past the hour. a live look at the white house in washington, d.c. joining us we have former campaign senior strategist -- really. you're just going to walk in front of the camera? >> i thought -- >> sit down. sit down. >> you go to schmidt. >> hey, i got an idea. hey, hey, hey, hey, joe. i got an idea. why don't you sit down before we're on the air. >>...
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if obama care is repealed. how would you replace it? >> actually it's a lengthy description but, number one, preexisting conditions are covered under my plan. number two, young people are able to stay on their family plan. >> what a machine, the etch a sketch. but one question for governor romney -- h how do you draw battle lines if they're all going to be dotted? where do you stand? >> i can't figure it out. >> well, you know walls of obfuscation, my friend. the question is, can romney make this pivot, which seem to be towards the center at this point in the game, and win over independent voters? >> look, there are very few really big moments in campaign. last night was one of those moments. there are a lot of people who have not been watching as much tape as your producers apparently have. give romney his due. he had a very compelling night. he crisply delivered his points. he was conversational. he had command of the policy and the facts. and it's up to president obama now to put him to where his record and
if obama care is repealed. how would you replace it? >> actually it's a lengthy description but, number one, preexisting conditions are covered under my plan. number two, young people are able to stay on their family plan. >> what a machine, the etch a sketch. but one question for governor romney -- h how do you draw battle lines if they're all going to be dotted? where do you stand? >> i can't figure it out. >> well, you know walls of obfuscation, my friend. the...
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>> obama. obama! >> you have a question for obama, you got all your answers. >> i have a question for obama and for romney. how are you going to manage the student debt crisis and make college and grad school affordable for all students? >> what's the student loan? >> grad students have lost the ability to have unsubsidized -- thank you -- unsubsidized loan so i'm paying a whole lot more out of pocket -- >> do you know what i paid 3%. question for who? >> question for both candidates, about gun control. after this incident in aurora, we would like to know how we'll have more gun control. >> gabby gifford. >> i have a question for -- >> how are the sox doing? >> not too well. >> one more painful day, i guess. >> exactly. i just have a question for mitt romney about the student loan debt. same issue, what do we do about the rising student loan debt? it's a big, big question. >> for both candidates, i want to know what to do to protect the environment from big corporates? green party. >> i have a questio
>> obama. obama! >> you have a question for obama, you got all your answers. >> i have a question for obama and for romney. how are you going to manage the student debt crisis and make college and grad school affordable for all students? >> what's the student loan? >> grad students have lost the ability to have unsubsidized -- thank you -- unsubsidized loan so i'm paying a whole lot more out of pocket -- >> do you know what i paid 3%. question for who?...
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>> i bet governor christie 10,000 bucks that that narrative is not going to be changed in such a manner. it is true that if romney is going to get back in this race, this is the time to do it. the first debate. the second and third debate, that's all nice. but this is the last chance that he has to win a first impression or second or third, which ever it is at this point. there is some promise for romney in the post abc polls, expectations are high. many more people think that obama will win this debate. the expectations are low for him. he really does. he doesn't just need to hold his own, needs to get in there and give people a reason why he looks and acts like a president in a better way than obama would. >> but michelle, there's so much doubt going that paul ryan, according to the national review, he's even calling conservative pundits to reassure them. let me read you a national review report. it writes, paul ryan has a new mission. reassuring conservative pundits. republicans familiar with the calls say ryan's tone has been positive and upbeat but he has acknowledged that the camp
>> i bet governor christie 10,000 bucks that that narrative is not going to be changed in such a manner. it is true that if romney is going to get back in this race, this is the time to do it. the first debate. the second and third debate, that's all nice. but this is the last chance that he has to win a first impression or second or third, which ever it is at this point. there is some promise for romney in the post abc polls, expectations are high. many more people think that obama will...
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it was obama's fault, and romney was mr. fix-it. and in each of those tenets it seemed to me they have gone out the window. i think obama will start asking where is the beef. the numbers are very clear about the economic turnaround since he's been president. he has an economic jobs recovery act now which by everybody's reckoning would create somewhere between 1 million and 2 million jobs. on the other hand, you have romney who has no economic plan whatsoever other than to say i want to cut taxes below the 15% ofg dp that they are right now, and then the other night he says, well, i don't want to actually cut the actual tax rate, i want to cut rates and then i want to increase deductions and give us effectively the same amount of taxes coming into the economy which leaves him with an unutterly incoherent record. with romney you have nothing and i think the message you will start hearing next week is going back to that old mondale commercial, where is the beef, show us the beef, because there ain't none there. >> john, before we evisc
it was obama's fault, and romney was mr. fix-it. and in each of those tenets it seemed to me they have gone out the window. i think obama will start asking where is the beef. the numbers are very clear about the economic turnaround since he's been president. he has an economic jobs recovery act now which by everybody's reckoning would create somewhere between 1 million and 2 million jobs. on the other hand, you have romney who has no economic plan whatsoever other than to say i want to cut...
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which is what obama did in his health care benefit. i'm just reminding people a lot of what we're hearing you have to take with grain of salt that big picture priorities usually are followed through on. but the details get swept away -- >> also -- >> the one big policy thing that romney has done is walking away from and at least with president obama, i mean we've got obama care, we've got the jobs act, we've got some actual ideas that he has put on the table, things he has done in the last four years to say, we can see what your philosophy is. we can see what specificity. romney won't even give you that. >> the wall of obfuscation, brick by brick. mark halperin, we haven't talked about the coverage of "time," the debate special and we're not trying to depress anybody here but the thesis here written by one of our friends to the show, michael sherry, he talks about how voters are just increasingly less demanding of the truth, that political fibs we can get away with them and things like details on tax plans doesn't really matter to the
which is what obama did in his health care benefit. i'm just reminding people a lot of what we're hearing you have to take with grain of salt that big picture priorities usually are followed through on. but the details get swept away -- >> also -- >> the one big policy thing that romney has done is walking away from and at least with president obama, i mean we've got obama care, we've got the jobs act, we've got some actual ideas that he has put on the table, things he has done in...
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i will repeal obama care. we're going to get rid of obama care. >> just listen to what he told nbc news about his own health care record. >> don't forget, i got everybody in my state insured. 10 0% of the kids in my state have health insurance. i don't think anything shows more empathy and care for the people of this country than that kind of record. >> mr. empathy. don't be fooled. far right republicans like the red meat romney. they want the red meat romney. this is the kind of stuff they'll demand from him if he ever gets elected president. >> this is the home of focus on the family, which is -- committed to preserving the foundation of america. he put money in a whole mess of companies, about $90 billion into green energy companies like solyndra. we've seen the number of people on food stamps go from 32 million to 47 million. 15 million more people having fallen into poverty and needing food stamps. by the way, i'm going to get that pipeline from canada if i have to build it myself. >> only one romney can
i will repeal obama care. we're going to get rid of obama care. >> just listen to what he told nbc news about his own health care record. >> don't forget, i got everybody in my state insured. 10 0% of the kids in my state have health insurance. i don't think anything shows more empathy and care for the people of this country than that kind of record. >> mr. empathy. don't be fooled. far right republicans like the red meat romney. they want the red meat romney. this is the kind...
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is chris christie right? this is make or break for mitt romney? >> i think he's got more at steak than obama. it's one of his last shots. >> jeanne cummings, as you're watching this back and forth, do you expect a confrontational debate or a polite exchange? >> based on what the reporting shows and the preparation of the romney campaign, they are looking to bring the game to president obama. he has to do offense and defense, very tricky in the first debate, and i think he's well prepared. he may surprise some people. >> mark, i want you to talk to me about all of the national polls we have gotten in the last 24 hours. cnn, politico, abc post, they all have something in common. what are we seeing here that's good for obama and what are we seeing here that's good for romney? >> what's good for obama is he's hitting 50%, where you need to be. if obama wins, it's going to be with numbers like those. if i'm mitt romney, i'm liking the fact the race is tightening a little bit. the question is whether this is natural tightening or is mitt romney really m
is chris christie right? this is make or break for mitt romney? >> i think he's got more at steak than obama. it's one of his last shots. >> jeanne cummings, as you're watching this back and forth, do you expect a confrontational debate or a polite exchange? >> based on what the reporting shows and the preparation of the romney campaign, they are looking to bring the game to president obama. he has to do offense and defense, very tricky in the first debate, and i think he's...
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again, this is before obama's announcement. it's only in the republican party down at 22%. that's what's keeping the overall number in the low to mid 50s. outside the republican party this is basically a settled issue. so what you're seeing now, that means when you put it in a blue state, maine clearly blue, washington clearly blue, maryland clearly blue. the odds are very good that this thing is going to pass comfortably. minnesota we think of as a blue state but it is actually, as it gets closer, three, four, five point win for democrats commonly there, a lot more social conservatives there so it is not surprising it me it's a little closer than minnesota but i think we're at the point where if this goes on the ballot in a blue state it passes. in a swing state it could pass, it might not pass. if it's on the ballot in mississippi or kentucky or places like where it is republican heavy you're a long way away from there, a real long way spending the day today with ted olson seeing his passion and commitment on this issue and also seeing how central he is to the republican
again, this is before obama's announcement. it's only in the republican party down at 22%. that's what's keeping the overall number in the low to mid 50s. outside the republican party this is basically a settled issue. so what you're seeing now, that means when you put it in a blue state, maine clearly blue, washington clearly blue, maryland clearly blue. the odds are very good that this thing is going to pass comfortably. minnesota we think of as a blue state but it is actually, as it gets...
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>> i think chris christie was just being chris christie. while you're correct, a lot of people were dampening expectations, chris said what a lot of people are hoping and thinking. mitt romney delivers a vision with some specifics that people can grab on to and can turn this race around. the fact is things flip-flopped very, very quickly in the last two or three weeks. they can go back the other way. only if romney performs well. >> chris kofinis, do you believe that romney can turn this around as many months as he's had, one misstep after another, and by a wide margin, americans think president obama is going to win this debate and has the upper hand. what about expectations and what about the possibility of romney turning this around? what do you think? >> well, that's clearly their strategy. you have to love governor christie for raising expectations, but he was basically telling the truth. the romney campaign has to have a good performance to change the narrative of a campaign in a spiral to death. can he do it? i don't know. i have not
>> i think chris christie was just being chris christie. while you're correct, a lot of people were dampening expectations, chris said what a lot of people are hoping and thinking. mitt romney delivers a vision with some specifics that people can grab on to and can turn this race around. the fact is things flip-flopped very, very quickly in the last two or three weeks. they can go back the other way. only if romney performs well. >> chris kofinis, do you believe that romney can turn...
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. >> cnbc news conducted a snap poll of voters who watched the debate. 46% say mitt romney won. 22% say president obama won. and 32% called it a tie. much more ahead, including the take on some of the numbers we heard tonight from mitt romney. >> as president i will sit down on day one with leaders, the democratic leaders, as well as republican leaders. sltz i think governor romney is going to have a first day, going to also appeal obama care. [ male announcer ] if it wasn't for a little thing called the computer, we might still be making mix tapes. find this. pause this. play this. eject this. write this. it's like the days before esurance express lane™. you had to find a bunch of documents just to get a car insurance quote. now express lane finds your driving info with just one click, saving time to be nostalgic about the days before express lane. thank you, insurance for the modern world. esurance. now backed by allstate. howard fineman is with us. what are you hearing. >> it always interesting to watch the body language of the spin room. the side that feels confident that it won c
. >> cnbc news conducted a snap poll of voters who watched the debate. 46% say mitt romney won. 22% say president obama won. and 32% called it a tie. much more ahead, including the take on some of the numbers we heard tonight from mitt romney. >> as president i will sit down on day one with leaders, the democratic leaders, as well as republican leaders. sltz i think governor romney is going to have a first day, going to also appeal obama care. [ male announcer ] if it wasn't for a...
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and by this afternoon the obama campaign was up with this video. mitt romney has millions invested in o. shore tax havens. he says it doesn't mean he's avoiding u.s. taxes. >> i have not saved one dollar by having an investment somewhere outside this country. >> there was no reduction, not one dollar reduction in taxes by virtue of having an account in switzerland or a cayman island investment. the dollars of taxes remain exactly the same. >> but that's not true. according to a new report from "the new york times" romney avoided taxes through investments in offshore tax havens. mitt romney avoided paying his fair share. what else is he hiding? >>> joining me now, david k johnston author of the new book, "the fine print" and karen finney. david k. johnstone, the times got tax experts to look at the tax returns and some documents they obtained from bain from this new report today. what did we learn? >> well, the cayman islands 4 hundred years ago was a hang out for pirates now it's a hang out for tax pirates. instead of a buried map of where the tres
and by this afternoon the obama campaign was up with this video. mitt romney has millions invested in o. shore tax havens. he says it doesn't mean he's avoiding u.s. taxes. >> i have not saved one dollar by having an investment somewhere outside this country. >> there was no reduction, not one dollar reduction in taxes by virtue of having an account in switzerland or a cayman island investment. the dollars of taxes remain exactly the same. >> but that's not true. according to...
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romney by a 22-point margin. those results match other polling that shows those comments alienated undecided voters. regardless of what you think of the substance of that it statement from mr. romney, it did turn the whole republican pundit class against him, called every candidate in a contested race to distance themselves from the presidential nominee of their party to start campaigning against mitt romney, telling voters, listen, i don't like that guy on that issue either, but vote for me any way even though i'm a republican. whether or not you think the remarks were scandalous, the polling impact of them is now showing up directly at a time when mr. romney's egregiously bad polling numbers seem to be calcifying and when most voters are now starting to vote. an incredibly negative impact for romney and his campaign at a difficult time for them. now on the eve of the first presidential debate, if they were hoping to put that behind them, any hope of getting away from the issue has now been expunged because "the
romney by a 22-point margin. those results match other polling that shows those comments alienated undecided voters. regardless of what you think of the substance of that it statement from mr. romney, it did turn the whole republican pundit class against him, called every candidate in a contested race to distance themselves from the presidential nominee of their party to start campaigning against mitt romney, telling voters, listen, i don't like that guy on that issue either, but vote for me...
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governor christie. is he the future of the republican party? is he what you want for the republican party? >> chris is a breath of fresh air. politicians who you don't know what they're saying, you know what he says he believes. if he says he's going at something, he's going to go at it. object to his style. confrontational, very jersey. he's getting a lot done and that approach is the future of the party. that approach of up front saying this is how we need to get things done, and i'm going to do it, and i'm going to -- unfortunately today you have to be a little tough in doing that. >> you think that will work on a national level at some point? >> well, i think so. i mean, i wouldn't count it out. i don't know how it will weigh over time, wear over time in other parts of the country, because it is very jersey, and his approach, but right now people are very supportive. they love it. >> what is your fondest memory of your time in the white house with president george w. bush? >> that we have known each other on and off. served as governors tog
governor christie. is he the future of the republican party? is he what you want for the republican party? >> chris is a breath of fresh air. politicians who you don't know what they're saying, you know what he says he believes. if he says he's going at something, he's going to go at it. object to his style. confrontational, very jersey. he's getting a lot done and that approach is the future of the party. that approach of up front saying this is how we need to get things done, and i'm...
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obama never raised taxes but will raise them soon. it was mitt romney who said let detroit go bankrupt. then he saw what happened after the automobile loan from the federal government saved 1.5 million american jobs and ohio's economy. and all of a sudden, mitt romney says the auto loan, that was just a good idea. and mitt romney says he will be the president for all americans. don't forget that. even though he was caught on tape saying he can never convince 47% of americans to take responsibility for themselves. this is why mitt romney can't be let off the hook in the debate tomorrow night. but it's hard to press him on these issues when he doesn't even answer the questions. here it is. >> what is the biggest misconception about you in the public debate right now? >> we'll have to create more jobs, have less debt and shrink the size of government. >> misconceptions about you? >> you get to ask the questions you want and i get to give the answers i want. >> i hope there's a moment like that tomorrow night. not going to be easy for jim
obama never raised taxes but will raise them soon. it was mitt romney who said let detroit go bankrupt. then he saw what happened after the automobile loan from the federal government saved 1.5 million american jobs and ohio's economy. and all of a sudden, mitt romney says the auto loan, that was just a good idea. and mitt romney says he will be the president for all americans. don't forget that. even though he was caught on tape saying he can never convince 47% of americans to take...
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really as to compare barack obama to hitler? >> well, how he puts it -- >> the third reich. >> that the conditions which led to the election of barack obama, who he portrays as uniquely unqualified to be president of the united states, are similar to the conditions which led to the rise of hitler in germany, a discontented populace, tough economic conditions, and so forth. but, you know, i think the way that i understand this mystery, that the people at the very top of america, who are doing phenomenally well. mitt romney is right, his class -- it's something that warren buffett -- i love the warren buffett likes to say. yes, there is a class war in america, and my class is winning, so that's true. so why are these guys who are winning so mad? i think there are a couple of reasons. the first is i think we tend to overlook how isolated they are from everybody else. they really just don't see. that amount of money means you live, especially in this globalized economy, in a completely different universe, and, you know, in this sort
really as to compare barack obama to hitler? >> well, how he puts it -- >> the third reich. >> that the conditions which led to the election of barack obama, who he portrays as uniquely unqualified to be president of the united states, are similar to the conditions which led to the rise of hitler in germany, a discontented populace, tough economic conditions, and so forth. but, you know, i think the way that i understand this mystery, that the people at the very top of...
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obama has to do. he has to remain calm and look like he is the commander in chief that he is for the united states and if he can -- if obama can be just who he is, there's no way that romney can get the narrative that he actually wants. but if obama can be himself, then i think that he will be just fine. >> abby, neera, thanks for your time and i think you're right, if the president is who he is and mr. romney is who he is, i think that will work to the president's favor. we'll be right back. >> thanks. oh no, not a migraine now. try this... bayer? this isn't just a headache. trust me, this is new bayer migraine. [ male announcer ] it's the power of aspirin plus more in a triple action formula to relieve your tough migraines. new bayer migraine formula. >>> welcome back to "politicsnation." in just two hours, the two presidential candidates will debate their visions of america's future. i had the honor of addressing voters from a debate stage, too. back during my 2004 run for president. and while i lo
obama has to do. he has to remain calm and look like he is the commander in chief that he is for the united states and if he can -- if obama can be just who he is, there's no way that romney can get the narrative that he actually wants. but if obama can be himself, then i think that he will be just fine. >> abby, neera, thanks for your time and i think you're right, if the president is who he is and mr. romney is who he is, i think that will work to the president's favor. we'll be right...
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he has said time and time again, mitt romney even said at one point, look, i learned from governor christie, if you give people details, they just use it to attack you. he has said explicitly as a matter of strategy, we won't give you more details. so how long can he avoid details on stage with the president for 90 minutes. and the other problem, it's not just bain, it's not just fact that this is the wealthiest man to run for president, well, in nominal dollars, ever, but in real dollars, in a long time. but he is proposing the same thing that republicans always propose when they get into office. the one reliable policy you can always count on republicans controlling national government to push through are tax cuts on the wealthy. they won't close deficits, they won't do a lot of other things they say, but the one thing they will do, you can bank on it, is cut taxes for the rich. and that is hanging around him. people saw how that worked the last time. they're going through a recession that has hammered the working class in the way it has benefited the wealthy. and on top of that, he wants
he has said time and time again, mitt romney even said at one point, look, i learned from governor christie, if you give people details, they just use it to attack you. he has said explicitly as a matter of strategy, we won't give you more details. so how long can he avoid details on stage with the president for 90 minutes. and the other problem, it's not just bain, it's not just fact that this is the wealthiest man to run for president, well, in nominal dollars, ever, but in real dollars, in a...
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christie suggests? >> reporter: well, martin, i think if you talk to political analysts and also advisers on both sides, they say that this idea that one debate is going to be a game changer just simply isn't the case. in fact, our colleague john harwood had a great article about this in "the new york times" where he points out there are really few debates in history that have done that. one was the debate between nixon and kennedy. it was televised. kennedy came off as being much smoother, more likesable. that's an example of how high the stakes would have to be for there to be a real game-changer. i think what you're going to see more likely is viewers watching these debates in the aggregate. they're all very close together. and advisers are saying they're expecting the polls to get tighter as we get closer to election day barring any major misstep from either candidate. martin. >> nbc's krit tin welker, from politics to pugilism, you are there. thank you so much, kristin. >> reporter: thanks, martin.
christie suggests? >> reporter: well, martin, i think if you talk to political analysts and also advisers on both sides, they say that this idea that one debate is going to be a game changer just simply isn't the case. in fact, our colleague john harwood had a great article about this in "the new york times" where he points out there are really few debates in history that have done that. one was the debate between nixon and kennedy. it was televised. kennedy came off as being...
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apparently only chris christie did not get the memo his party sucks at this. >> it's the restart of the campaign and i think you will see the numbers move back in another direction and the whole race will turn upside down. >> what you are you doing? if romney fails to meet those heavy expectations, he's going to lose the general election and that's going to leave open 26 -- oh. the jersey is strong in this one. >> in political language the governor there was sandbagging. actually he was sandbagging. he should have been low balling, that's playing up the skills of the other guy claiming you have to chance. >>> we have talked about how some republicans seem to be running against a president who doesn't actually exist suggesting that president obama is some kind of foreigner with hidden plans to outlaw guns and bring european-style socialism to the u.s. of a. well, back in 2008 focus on the family, a hard right christian group, sent a memo to supporters about what 2012 would look like if obama was elected. well, first a prediction about the boy scouts of america. here they are. the boy sco
apparently only chris christie did not get the memo his party sucks at this. >> it's the restart of the campaign and i think you will see the numbers move back in another direction and the whole race will turn upside down. >> what you are you doing? if romney fails to meet those heavy expectations, he's going to lose the general election and that's going to leave open 26 -- oh. the jersey is strong in this one. >> in political language the governor there was sandbagging....
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the lowest number since president obama took office in 2009. while the economy added a relatively modest 114,000 jobs in september, new revisions show that july and august saw a combined increase of 86,000 more jobs than originally reported. needless to say, those numbers put a certain pep back in president obama's step. >> more americans entered the work force, more people are getting jobs. now every month reminds us that we've still got too many of our friends and neighbors looking for work. today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> needless to say this ray of economic sunshine is punting a dent in governor romney's plan to end the week on top. how is the republican nominee reacting spinning away saying quote -- >> but other obama critics, perhaps furious that good economic news might derail the romney swagger, instead they opted for conspiracy theories regarding the satitions behind the unemployment numbers.
the lowest number since president obama took office in 2009. while the economy added a relatively modest 114,000 jobs in september, new revisions show that july and august saw a combined increase of 86,000 more jobs than originally reported. needless to say, those numbers put a certain pep back in president obama's step. >> more americans entered the work force, more people are getting jobs. now every month reminds us that we've still got too many of our friends and neighbors looking for...
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what is the obama campaign saying today? next, press secretary ben labolt. [ le announcer ] there are only so many foods that make kids happy. and even fewer that make moms happy too. with wholesome noodles and bite sized chicken, nothing brings you together like chicken noodle soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. you paid...wow. hmmm. let's see if walmart can help you find the same look for less. okay. see? walmart has all these leading eyewear brands and styles. rockstar! really? yeah. oh, wow! oh, black frame looks good on you. yeah? you can get a complete pair starting at just -- $38. really?! and did you know that our glasses come with a free 12-month replacement guarantee? i didn't know walmart had all this. the price is impressive, the quality is too! come to walmart and see for yourself. find quality eyewear brands starting at just $38. only at walmart. what are they fitting, aliens? >>> some of the president's most ardent supporters are scratching their heads trying to explain what appeared possible
what is the obama campaign saying today? next, press secretary ben labolt. [ le announcer ] there are only so many foods that make kids happy. and even fewer that make moms happy too. with wholesome noodles and bite sized chicken, nothing brings you together like chicken noodle soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. you paid...wow. hmmm. let's see if walmart can help you find the same look for less. okay. see? walmart has all these leading eyewear brands and styles. rockstar!...
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we don't know if obama's going to press the 47% issue. i don't think anybody knows what's going to happen. >> as a moderator, not only did you make history, you had to walk a very line, but what sort of pitfalls do moderators have to be wary of? >> well, you have, you can't, you can't think about what people are going to say about you. i tried to do my job as a good journalist, to be fair and to be objective and to be professional. and to seek the truth. i employed those attributes as a reporter and despite how professional i thought it was an how fair i thought i was, i was accused of making george bush look bad and of making clinton look good, which was completely false. clinton did his thing on his own. and the public saw his warmth and his ability to connect with people and they liked that. george bush blew that question you showed a part of. that was the good part of his answer, but when he first heard the question, he was like, i don't get it and people remember that he said i don't get it. and that was about the economy. and that's
we don't know if obama's going to press the 47% issue. i don't think anybody knows what's going to happen. >> as a moderator, not only did you make history, you had to walk a very line, but what sort of pitfalls do moderators have to be wary of? >> well, you have, you can't, you can't think about what people are going to say about you. i tried to do my job as a good journalist, to be fair and to be objective and to be professional. and to seek the truth. i employed those attributes...
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that was president obama. obviously in denver, saying the economic policies of mitt romney are a relapse and the president is exactly correct. romney rattled off his five-point plan last night just as he has done on the stump. energy independence, education, trade agreements, cutting the deficit and help for small businesses. the website, nextnewdeal, discovered this five-point plan, well, has been pushed before. by senator john mccain when he accepted the republican nomination four years ago. the five points were in a different order, but in the speech, exactly the same thing. there's really no real difference. four years earlier, here it is, an almost identical five-point plan was offered by president george w. bush when he was accepting the republican nomination for re-election. now, the five points were in a different order in this speech, in the actual speech. small businesses were mentioned twice. you get the picture in all of this. bush also repeatedly mentioned no child left behind even though it wasn'
that was president obama. obviously in denver, saying the economic policies of mitt romney are a relapse and the president is exactly correct. romney rattled off his five-point plan last night just as he has done on the stump. energy independence, education, trade agreements, cutting the deficit and help for small businesses. the website, nextnewdeal, discovered this five-point plan, well, has been pushed before. by senator john mccain when he accepted the republican nomination four years ago....
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president obama. and we have breaking news from mitt romney who just appeared on fox news and tried to rewrite this comments about 47% of america. >> a new mitt romney took the stage last night. >> first of all i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut. >> really? is that so? >> across the board for all american. >> 20% across the board. >> by 20%. >> i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut i don't have a tax cut. >> if you want to be president you owe the american people the truth. >> i will repeal obamacare. >> the best course for health care is to do what we did in my state. >> he is saying he would not cut education. >> he says we need more firemen and more policemen. >> did he not get the message or wisconsin? >> who is the real mitt romney? >> every day he is in a different position. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy for pbs. >> he is going to crack down on seseme street. >> i love big bird. >> elmo has to watch out. >> i think i get the last word. >> with 33 days until the presidenti
president obama. and we have breaking news from mitt romney who just appeared on fox news and tried to rewrite this comments about 47% of america. >> a new mitt romney took the stage last night. >> first of all i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut. >> really? is that so? >> across the board for all american. >> 20% across the board. >> by 20%. >> i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut i don't have a tax cut. >> if you want to be...
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this is not the way obama talks. in is not a dog whistle. this is a dog siren. >> it's incendiary -- >> yes, it's just about as incendiary as two white dudes debates how black is too black in a black man's speech. indeed, fox ran with it all the way into the morning on "fox and friends". >> we watched president obama for 3 hchl years. i don't think he's governed in a race this way at all. i think that was going to be an issue. should have been an issue in '08. does anyone think president obama is more towards one race? i don't think so. >> roger rails would like to see you in his office. joining us right now, let's get to our panel here in denver, mike shira, "time" magazine, white house correspondent, who has the cover story in this week's issue. john harwood, cnbc chief white house correspondent, and holding it down in new york city, msnbc political analyst karen finney. john, are you there in the spin room. as you know, the spinning begins before either candidate has spoken. we've seen both parties attempt to deflate expectations. but isn
this is not the way obama talks. in is not a dog whistle. this is a dog siren. >> it's incendiary -- >> yes, it's just about as incendiary as two white dudes debates how black is too black in a black man's speech. indeed, fox ran with it all the way into the morning on "fox and friends". >> we watched president obama for 3 hchl years. i don't think he's governed in a race this way at all. i think that was going to be an issue. should have been an issue in '08. does...
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the cdc says four people have died and 22 more sickened. investigators blame the outbreak on a bad batch of steroids from a pharmacy in massachusetts that was being used to treat back pain. >>> just a day before the new unemployment numbers come out, a new survey shows employers are cutting back on layoffs. the challenger gray and christmas firm says layoffs were up 4.9% from august. right now the unemployment rate stands at 8.1%. >>> cashing in on the presidential election, mandy duringry is here with what's moving your money. jet blue is the latest company to jump on the bandwagon. they call this election protection. >> that's right, election protection, chris. ahead of next month's presidential election, jet blue is offering you a way to make good on threats to leave the country if your candidate does not win. now the airline is giving away a total of 2012 seats for customers on the losing end of the battle between obama and romney. let's have a listen. >> if things don't go your way, don't worry, here's your chance to get out of the cou
the cdc says four people have died and 22 more sickened. investigators blame the outbreak on a bad batch of steroids from a pharmacy in massachusetts that was being used to treat back pain. >>> just a day before the new unemployment numbers come out, a new survey shows employers are cutting back on layoffs. the challenger gray and christmas firm says layoffs were up 4.9% from august. right now the unemployment rate stands at 8.1%. >>> cashing in on the presidential election,...
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dana mill bank, political cl columnist, michael crowley, and here in new york ron christie. dana, if i might start with you. an insightful political observer such as yourself has seen these two gentlemen in many a debate. but if your path to success relies on mitt romney's comic timing, isn't the zinger likely to become something of a boomerang and hit mr. romney instead of his opponent? >> you know, everybody always remembers the great zingers. you know, usually something from ronald reagan, but here we go again expecting that people are going to try a little bit too hard. there's a real danger when you've been supplied with premixed, ready-made zingers to insert into the debate that mitt romney will insert them at the wrong time or say them not quite right. the only thing worse than having no zinger is having a zinger that comes off badly and comes back to bite you. so i think that's a perilous way to go, but i'll be there in denver, and i look forward to the attempts because it will make it far more interesting. >> indeed. we're delighted, ron, that you're here. you have
dana mill bank, political cl columnist, michael crowley, and here in new york ron christie. dana, if i might start with you. an insightful political observer such as yourself has seen these two gentlemen in many a debate. but if your path to success relies on mitt romney's comic timing, isn't the zinger likely to become something of a boomerang and hit mr. romney instead of his opponent? >> you know, everybody always remembers the great zingers. you know, usually something from ronald...
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the president has visited here 22 times. he will keep coming back because he knows ohio is the heart of it all. >> all right. ohio state senator nina turner, great to have you with us again tonight. thanks so much. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. i'm a believer. our locker room's okay. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. good evening, rachel. > good evening, ed. great show tonight. it was epic. thanks for staying with us the next hour. televised debates have existed in this country since 196 o. that was the really, really famous one. it was sweaty, dick nixon sick with a fever against polished john f. kennedy. legend has it that richard nixon heard that jfk was not going to get makeup from cbs for that debate, and so nixon said, well, i won't have any makeup either, then. even though he was running a 102 degree fever and not only was nixon ill that day, it turned out that when jfk turned down the cbs makeup offer, it was because he apparently had his own makeup arrangements already made. and so we got jfk with m
the president has visited here 22 times. he will keep coming back because he knows ohio is the heart of it all. >> all right. ohio state senator nina turner, great to have you with us again tonight. thanks so much. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. i'm a believer. our locker room's okay. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. good evening, rachel. > good evening, ed. great show tonight. it was epic. thanks for staying with us the next hour. televised debates...
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obama is now in a position to nail jello to the wall. you said that romney was lying on wednesday night. now, that's possible or it's possible he's now telling the truth and the others were lies. you can't have a tax cut of that size and not add to the deficit because there are not enough loopholes to close to get you to that point. >> dana, isn't that the problem? he comes out of this debate having three at trically won a score in terms of the night but now he's got the problem of having to defend an economic plan that is really problematic for him, particularly given his record and particularly given the republican base. going forward, doesn't he have the burden to defend what he did the other night? >> he does. i assume what is going on here is romney said, look, with the hard right thing, we are down in the key states. we're down overall. this isn't working. well, let's bring back that etch-a-sketch campaign. will americans believe suddenly this man that's been saying one thing for the last year or two is now believed something entir
obama is now in a position to nail jello to the wall. you said that romney was lying on wednesday night. now, that's possible or it's possible he's now telling the truth and the others were lies. you can't have a tax cut of that size and not add to the deficit because there are not enough loopholes to close to get you to that point. >> dana, isn't that the problem? he comes out of this debate having three at trically won a score in terms of the night but now he's got the problem of having...
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obama is likability. if he is seen attacking people with zingers, which are completely unprofessional, completely unpresidential, i mean, this sort of street fight combative thing, that's not where he wants to be. i was talking to martin bashir before the show. he doesn't want to do that, and his entire life is wrapped around that, about not being combative in that way. he doesn't want to do that. that's his entire life wrapped around that. i mean, i also saw, you know, a guy who is leading. the likability is more important than winning this debate. i know i'm winning this thing. it's this dynamic we've seen a lot in las vegas or perhaps atlantic city when we get a champion and challenger. the challenger has nothing to lose and goes nuts and flings punches everywhere. what does he have to lose? i don't need to mix it up with you. i'm going it to win on points and layback. sometimes that strategy wins and sometimes it doesn't. >> it's always frustrating if you're a fan to watch it fully. >> it's bizarre. >
obama is likability. if he is seen attacking people with zingers, which are completely unprofessional, completely unpresidential, i mean, this sort of street fight combative thing, that's not where he wants to be. i was talking to martin bashir before the show. he doesn't want to do that, and his entire life is wrapped around that, about not being combative in that way. he doesn't want to do that. that's his entire life wrapped around that. i mean, i also saw, you know, a guy who is leading....
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our view is obama has done a poor job. everything he did that was wrong was when he had overwhelming democratic support. it's appropriate to ask now, how did that work out? and then he added this. he said, quote, i'm pretty confident the american people are not going to go back to 2009 and 2010 and let the other side have total control of the government. total control of the government? think about that for a second. mitch mcconnell is talking about democrats controlling the senate and the white house and democrats controlling the house. i mean, few people other than nancy pelosi and other house democrats are talking about the democrats conceivably taking control of the house. but mitch mcconnell seems to think that's a possibility. as the republican leader in the senate, mitch mcconnell is most concerned with senate seats and that's what he's backstopping here when pitching to donors. but the pitch he's making to republican donors is amazing. he's pitching that republicans need to work hard and collect your hard-earned mo
our view is obama has done a poor job. everything he did that was wrong was when he had overwhelming democratic support. it's appropriate to ask now, how did that work out? and then he added this. he said, quote, i'm pretty confident the american people are not going to go back to 2009 and 2010 and let the other side have total control of the government. total control of the government? think about that for a second. mitch mcconnell is talking about democrats controlling the senate and the...
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>> president obama. >> you have a question for who? >> for mitt romney, are you a robot and, if so, where is your on/off switch so we can switch you off. >> question for who? >> i do not have a question. >> are you going to vote to this year? >> yes, i am going to vote. >> for mitt romney, what loopholes -- >> that's my question, too. >> for president obama, how do you plan on closing the deficit. >> how does the bomb in syria change the policies in the foreign east. >> what? >> turkey and syria, just he is ask lated the syrian conflict. >> what side of the fence are you on? >> i don't have a dog in the race yet. i'm just curious on what the policy will be. >> you're not turkish are you? >> no. >> i've been in health care for 37 years as a provider and i am completely 100% for the affordable health care act. thank you president obama. >> i just want to know what we're going to do about the student's act. >> what percentage do you pay in interest? >> well, mine's a government debt. i don't have any private debt. >> i paid 3% in college.
>> president obama. >> you have a question for who? >> for mitt romney, are you a robot and, if so, where is your on/off switch so we can switch you off. >> question for who? >> i do not have a question. >> are you going to vote to this year? >> yes, i am going to vote. >> for mitt romney, what loopholes -- >> that's my question, too. >> for president obama, how do you plan on closing the deficit. >> how does the bomb in syria...
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they seem to value making sure that the wealthiest among us get a tax cut on the backs of veterans, 22 million strong in america, 1 million in ohio, many, many in iowa and new hampshire where i just was, and less than 1% of them having served over the last decade. >> beau, you bring up the romney/ryan plan, specifically paul ryan's plan is what has gotten a lot of press over the last year, but when we speak about the preps that your dad is going through to get ready for the vice presidential debate against congressman ryan, what do you know? what insight can you give us about how your dad is getting ready for that? >> well, he's methodically preparing to understand and have a clear sense of what paul ryan's budget is about and it's been adopted by the united states house of representatives and been embraced by governor romney, understand his plan tom, by the way, with governor romney's plan to voucherize the va. he's studying very hard. paul ryan is a skilled debater, a skilled -- very -- he's very smart, encyclopedic knowledge of the budget he's proposed and the domestic issues that a
they seem to value making sure that the wealthiest among us get a tax cut on the backs of veterans, 22 million strong in america, 1 million in ohio, many, many in iowa and new hampshire where i just was, and less than 1% of them having served over the last decade. >> beau, you bring up the romney/ryan plan, specifically paul ryan's plan is what has gotten a lot of press over the last year, but when we speak about the preps that your dad is going through to get ready for the vice...
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obama took a licking last night. the public knows that and now to suggest that the facts support what his position is supposed to be i don't think carries. >> you know, i got to ask you a personal question about the president. you know, i do look up to him in so many ways. when i'm with him i say to myself and i do this objectively, i list be to him after he's briefed us on something, this guy ought to be president. he has the command of the issues. he has scope. he has relevance. he can talk to you as regular person in common english as well as the wonk talk. he has an iq that is way up there. yet last night he was tongue tied. he let the other guy own the room. what do you think was on his mind before we get on to romney. i know you think a lot about this and care a lot, mayor. >> i think what happened last night is i think barack obama frankly went to sleep. he had anticipated being perceived as arrogant, being perceived as a genius, being perceived as taking advantage of a lesser, and he decided to back off of al
obama took a licking last night. the public knows that and now to suggest that the facts support what his position is supposed to be i don't think carries. >> you know, i got to ask you a personal question about the president. you know, i do look up to him in so many ways. when i'm with him i say to myself and i do this objectively, i list be to him after he's briefed us on something, this guy ought to be president. he has the command of the issues. he has scope. he has relevance. he can...
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obama has -- president obama has always been a very pragmatic leader, very pragmatic when it comes to debating, and very pragmatic when it comes to his campaign. he used this opportunity to open it up so he can actually at the end of the day sway the independent voter but by going out of the gate -- going after his base immediately, that doesn't help him to move the needle for the independent voters he needs. >> bill, lath night mr. romney described the dodd frank reform law as the biggest kiss to new york banks i have ever seen. you have worked with some of those banks. so was it? or is that the biggest lie mr. romney told last night? >> as george kos stanza says, it's not a lie if you believe it. it's one of the most cynical comments we heard last night because i don't think i have ever heard mitt romney actually defend regulation. he actually said i'm going to scrap dodd/frank and put in place new regulations, presumably tougher regulations. if this is a kiss, he wants tougher regulations. let's stipulate for a moment that most of wall street is already in mitt romney's pocket, alr
obama has -- president obama has always been a very pragmatic leader, very pragmatic when it comes to debating, and very pragmatic when it comes to his campaign. he used this opportunity to open it up so he can actually at the end of the day sway the independent voter but by going out of the gate -- going after his base immediately, that doesn't help him to move the needle for the independent voters he needs. >> bill, lath night mr. romney described the dodd frank reform law as the...
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president obama has no public events today. he will head to california tomorrow, where he is expected to tout the new jobs number, 7.8%, and some big fund-raising numbers out today. president obama and the democrats raised $181 million in september, the highest single-month total so far. more on all these stories throughout the next two hours. >>> the campaign focus shifts a bit next week to the vice presidential nominees. paul ryan and joe biden will face off in their only debate next thursday night. paul ryan has just left his four-day debate camp. he is heading back to wisconsin for a fund-raiser tonight. and as for the vice president, we check in with msnbc news campaign embed carrie dan. she's embedded with vice president joe biden's team. carrie, vice president biden's schedule shows him to be in wilmington, delaware, right now, and for the next few days. what is planned for him? >> that's right, milissa. he's going to be doing his own debate camp there, up until a day before the debate. he's spending time with chris van
president obama has no public events today. he will head to california tomorrow, where he is expected to tout the new jobs number, 7.8%, and some big fund-raising numbers out today. president obama and the democrats raised $181 million in september, the highest single-month total so far. more on all these stories throughout the next two hours. >>> the campaign focus shifts a bit next week to the vice presidential nominees. paul ryan and joe biden will face off in their only debate next...